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What should Topland Estates do with Cardiff's Capital Tower?

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Topland Estates paid around £12m for the landmark Capital Tower in Cardiff this July.

There's no disputing that it is a landmark building but it is tired, worn and Admiral which occupy the lion's share of space in the tower, are due to vacate for it's shiny new headquarters (£) in under three years. So why would you buy a building where the triple A covenant is about to leave?

Local agents are in two minds. Some think (probably hope) that Admiral will stay in the building as the insurer continues to expand. However, industry experts say that the insurance market is now slowing and expansion plans at Admiral have become more modest than they were.

So, that leaves letting the space. Here, the agents are split. Some, such as Peter Graham, director at Stephenson Alexander, think it would be a long hard slog to let the building floor by floor. Others such as Mark Sutton at Knight Frank, believe that's where the market is. Both agree that finding a single occupier for up to 80,000 sq ft would be a tall order in the current market.

But, with Topland Estates currently looking to retain an agent for the building nobody is prepared to rule it out and potentially talk themselves out of a juicy commission.

Click below to listen to Peter and Mark at last week's EG Cardiff reception, give their views on what should be done with Capital Tower.

We'll be discussing this in more detail in the Wales Focus in the magazine on the 17th November.

Pictures: EG's Cardiff reception

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The market's tough but there are a worse things than spending a Friday drinking Peroni. That was the verdict from guests at EG's annual Cardiff reception last Friday.

Around 60 of Wales' property's finest enjoyed the food and free flowing booze at the Park Plaza hotel.

But worries about the market weren't far from their mind. 'We're one away from getting out the Yellow Pages and ringing up people and asking "do you want a shed?"' quipped one. That said there's plenty to keep them busy. With the fate of the convention centre due to be decided, the BBC poised to decide on its 140,000 sq ft requirement and agents about to be announced for Capital Tower it probably won't be dull.

Click on the slide show above to see pictures from the event. The synopsis for EG's Wales Focus released at the reception is available here.

Pictures by Alistair Heap

Cardiff convention centre location already decided

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The location of Cardiff's convention centre has been decided. Rumour is a recent crunch meeting for the much coveted, long-mooted convention centre actually picked the winning site. When it will be made public is another matter.

The original brief called for the convention Centre to be within a few minutes walk of the central train station. That effectively ruled out Cardiff Waterside, down in the Bay, although sources close to the government now say that it is firmly back in the running. A spur line could be run out to Cardiff Waterside, said one, making it a viable option. This would be enabled through the electrification of the mainline which is due to be completed in 2017.

Landing the convention centre would certainly make things more interesting for Aviva in it's hunt for a £80m buyer for the estate.

Other locations for the convention centre include MEPC's Callaghan Square. The fact that this is within the enterprise zone won't have gone unnoticed, and would provide a useful starting point to jump start development here, especially after L&G seemingly went cold on a deal to anchor the zone.

The exciting bit for the winning site is that it won't cost the private sector a penny. Wales Online reported back in August that the cost could be around £80m but would not require any private sector backing.

An official statement is due 'in the autumn'. With the decision already made and the nights drawing in how much longer will Cardiff city council and the Government leave us hanging?

EG Wales Focus synopsis

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Published 17 Nov, 2012

Offices
Analysis of the market conditions and future prospects.
Nadia Elghamry, deputy regional editor, 020 7911 1849, nadia.elghamry@estatesgazette.com

Newport
What's the outlook for development?
Jack Sidders, Wales & South West news correspondent , 020 7911 1810, jack.sidders@estatesgazette.com

Politics
Analysis of key changes in Wales' political scene
Mark Simmons, freelance writer, 07787 561032, msimmons@sourceform.co.uk

Swansea
Analysis of market conditions and prospects
David Thame, freelance writer, 01544 262 896, dthame@clara.co.uk

Industrial
Analysis of key projects and future prospects
Karen Day, group online editor, 020 7911 1894, karen.day@estatesgazette.com

Market health check
If you think you can provide up to date stats (up to end of Q3) for Cardiff, Newport and Swansea offices, industrial and retail email stacey.meadwell@estatesgazette.com


Please contact the writers directly to get more details about the specific topics they are covering by Wednesday 24th October.

Video: JR Smart's Capital Quarter takes shape

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JR Smart's 78,000 sq ft office development, Number One Capital Quarter, is really taking shape on the Cardiff skyline. It's now recognisable as the CGI we've all seen splashed around. 

It's delivery will be a test for the local market. Agents continually bemoan the lack of good stock in the marketplace. With One Capital Quarter being delivered (albeit slower than we initially thought - who wants to take on any empty rates liability if they could avoid it?) Cardiff will find out if occupiers are only rolling over leases because there's little out there or if there's actually little appetite to move. 

There are whispers that there may be some good news around the corner, but nobody is keen to divulge more and jinx anything in the current market. 

JR Smart has just released the video below which gives an idea of what it might be like to actually work in the building. Even if you're not thinking of working in there it's worth taking a look, I particularly like the cool deconstructed blocks flying through the air and up into the pillars. 


Doctor Who experience opens in Cardiff

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7402413418_f648ec40a2_b.jpgWhat's the best thing to happen to Wales? Now this might cause a few complaints but I'll just put it out there: Doctor Who

OK, so we might be a teensy bit bias at EG in that it's probably one of the better things in recent times to happen to the commercial property market. The decision to film Doctor Who and Merlin (not mention Torchwood, Being Human and Casualty) at locations in Wales has spurned a whole industry and given the city a sheen of cool,not to mention the BBC's much hailed move to the Roath Basin which came complete with a 215,000 sq ft production facility. 

Well today we get to see how it is all put together, complete with Daleks, cybermen and the Silence . This morning the doors swung open at the Doctor Who experience at igloo regeneration's 38-acre Porth Teigr development in Cardiff Bay. There are some great pictures of what to expect here.

Forecasts say it will attract 250, 000 people a year which will undoubtedly have local businesses and hotels rubbing their hands together. And igloo say they've already seen more enquiries from creative businesses who want to be close to the Beeb.

A new series of Doctor Who is currently being filmed in the city. So, who knows, if you wander down there you might even catch a glimpse of the doctor himself. 

Picture by Pellaeon on Flickr
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Cardiff LDP leaked - but is it the final say?

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It seems Cardiff's LDP has been leaked to the Welsh press.

Wales Online has a story up which outlines in quite a lot of detail what's going on and where. There's still no official word from the council but I've heard the it has, at least verbally, agreed that the detail is correct. 

The LDP has been so heavily delayed and there's been a real battle over Greenfield release (we and others have talked about this before). The growth option they've eventually opted for at 45,000 new homes between now and 2026 is the middle of the road option (the highest option called for 54,400 homes) and is actually less than than the Welsh Goverment's housing projections for Cardiff. 

Nobody wants to go on record (there are some very lucrative property and development deals to be done here) but as one pointed out, 'they'll have to justify using this lower figure to the Welsh Government...there is a real prospect that the final housing numbers may actually need to be higher than this. 

Cardiff's argument is that housing numbers should be looked at on a regional basis rather than them being left to pick up the numbers others don't want because they are the last to produce their plan. 

Generally the property industry seem pleased that Cardiff - at last, eventually - appear to be grasping the nettle, one they've been avoiding since it became clear in February 2010 that the previous draft of the LDP was going to be thrown out. But, they warn, this is just the preferred strategy, with member and public views on this being sought in October and December respectively. 

This is the real crunch time. At this point the vision will come under intense scrutiny and the resolve of Cardiff Council to build 18,250 homes on Greenfield sites will be really tested. 

To add fuel to the fire, the Independent Advisory Group appointed by the Welsh Government to report on future options for the delivery of the planning service are also due to report back in October. This may see revisions to the entire plan making process in Wales, potentially giving Cardiff the opportunity to scrap the plan again.

So while most are relieved that Cardiff does at last have a plan they're still left hanging. As one put it: ' This is merely the start of what I suspect will be a hugely emotive debate, which unfortunately, I am not convinced will end up looking like the current plan.'

If it doesn't there is the threat Cardiff will still not have an adopted plan by 2020. 

First pics of Cardiff Bay resi redevelopment

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This is what the new residential down at Cardiff Bay will look like. Anyone brave enough to take a flat cantilevered out over the water's edge? Affordable housing will be discreetly tucked away on two adjacent sites. 

Plans have been submitted to Cardiff Council by Greenbank Partnerships for the £200m Cardiff Pointe development. Out of 634 of the Scott Brownrigg-designed units 235 will be two, three, four and five bed houses. But the balance will be flats in those two residential towers, something most developers outside of London have trodden very carefully with. 

And that's with good reason, you don't need to delve too far back into the Bay's history to find stories of hundreds of empty flats. It's a different market now, different, but not necessarily better. The market will be eagerly watching how these fare. 

The best and the worst of the regional office markets in Q1

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Knight Frank released its amusingly named ROMP report yesterday (that's Regional Office Market Presentation - just don't google ROMP on its own on your office computer - well maybe a colleagues) in which it compares and contrasts the market performance in 11 regional cities around the UK. 

One of the most interesting graphs within the report shows Q1 2012 take up vs the average quarterly take up for 2011 ie how well has each city done this year so far? Now you have to look at the figures in context but before we do that here is how the 11 cities rank in terms of take up in Q1 2012 vs its 2011 quarterly average:

  1. Leeds +50%
  2. Glasgow +32%
  3. Edinburgh +23%
  4. Manchester -5%
  5. Liverpool -11%
  6. Bristol -16%
  7. Sheffield -29%
  8. Cardiff -40%
  9. Aberdeen -165%
  10. Birmingham -209%
  11. Newcastle -376%
Now the context bit, Leeds had a good 2011 but it was its first year of increased take up since 2007 and the Q1 figure includes one particularly large deal of over 60,000 sq ft (Medical Protection Society's purchase of 2 & 3 Victoria Place). 

Glasgow and Edinburgh on the other hand, while having had storming starts to Q1 compared to everywhere else, actually didn't have great 2011 for office take up so they are coming from a lower base.

The flip side of that is Aberdeen which looks like it has had a terrible start to the year when in fact it had a phenomenal 2011 recording the highest average quarterly take up of all 11 cities and it still ranks the fifth highest take up for Q1 2012.

And then there is Newcastle, while there was a brief filip last year, office take up in the city actually peaked in 2004. Ouch.

Hopes for Cardiff's LDP as Lib Dems lose council

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The Lib Dems have lost both Swansea and Cardiff councils. The huge political and reputational hit aside what does it mean for Cardiff's delayed Local Development Plan and will Labour have a more development friendly attitude to the Lib Dems/ Plaid Cymru "concrete jungle" concerns. 

Gareth Hooper, planning director at DPP in Cardiff hopes it might herald a better era. Below are his thoughts:

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"Labour's manifesto pledges - with regards to increasing affordable housing numbers and maintaining the Libdems/Plaid Cymru building targets - are encouraging for the development sector. The only concern with regards to the impact of their victory will be with regards to keeping up recent momentum. Finally progress was beginning to be made in having the LDP ratified in order to kick start development and boost the city's economy and it's critical that this continues to ensure a successful future for Cardiff. The recent history of development in Cardiff has not been hugely pretty, with the sector stymied by delays, uncertainty and frustration. The hope would be that Labour is able to maximise the current wave of popular opinion and take decisive action to ensure investment is encouraged, and remains in Cardiff."

We will be looking in detail at Cardiff's delayed LDP and the road forward in this Saturday's magazine. 

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